Comments on: You Didn’t Need To Apologise, NameWee http://ghostline.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/you-didnt-need-to-apologise-namewee/ Keeping a baleful eye on the absurdities of Malaysian politics. Don't just get angry, get involved. Make a difference. Fri, 19 Sep 2008 21:21:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: jeff http://ghostline.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/you-didnt-need-to-apologise-namewee/#comment-885 jeff Tue, 18 Dec 2007 06:06:57 +0000 http://ghostline.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/you-didnt-need-to-apologise-namewee/#comment-885 Our lord is an all Mercyful and Compassionate one, he will not have taken an ignorence journalist carricuture seriously, he will want his followers to forgive him and love him like they love Jesus. Our lord is an all Mercyful and Compassionate one, he will not have taken an ignorence journalist carricuture seriously, he will want his followers to forgive him and love him like they love Jesus.

]]> By: BegToDiffer http://ghostline.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/you-didnt-need-to-apologise-namewee/#comment-91 BegToDiffer Wed, 05 Sep 2007 08:24:12 +0000 http://ghostline.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/you-didnt-need-to-apologise-namewee/#comment-91 Well he can vent out his frustration for all he wants to the govt...policies bla bla bla...but he is an INSENSITIVE MORON making fun of azan (totally unacceptable)...and you said he was being cheeky...and not insulting.. if you want to take out on the Malay leaders, by any means do it...better yet..have a specific case and NAMED la whoever you're dedicating the song to...which leader you most pissed off...but NEVER EVER TOUCH ON RELIGION...how would you like it other people kutuk your religion and its practices... put yourself in other people's shoes...then you'd know what i mean..... <strong>[ GhL ] :</strong> <em>Fair comment, BegToDiffer. Conversely though, in a mature and civil society, there should be some room for fair comments on religion, as long as it is not outright hate speech. It is the ability to think critically (which includes objective consideration of others' criticisms, and self-criticism where necessary) that defines a mature mind (and society). The inability to accept criticism (as has happened to UMNO-BN) breeds rot and intolerance. One participant (an Indian Christian) in the Bangsa Malaysia gathering commented on the recent 'Makkal Ossai' controversy: he was not offended at all by the caricature of the smoking Jesus Christ published in the 'Makkal Ossai' Tamil newspaper and considered the MIC-led official response (suspending Makkal Ossai for 1 month) to be politicised and an over-reaction. He rationalised it thus: God is great and does not need him to defend Him against something so trivial. If He did, then God must not be as great as we think He is. An enlightened man indeed. </em> Well he can vent out his frustration for all he wants to the govt…policies bla bla bla…but he is an INSENSITIVE MORON making fun of azan (totally unacceptable)…and you said he was being cheeky…and not insulting..

if you want to take out on the Malay leaders, by any means do it…better yet..have a specific case and NAMED la whoever you’re dedicating the song to…which leader you most pissed off…but NEVER EVER TOUCH ON RELIGION…how would you like it other people kutuk your religion and its practices… put yourself in other people’s shoes…then you’d know what i mean…..

[ GhL ] : Fair comment, BegToDiffer. Conversely though, in a mature and civil society, there should be some room for fair comments on religion, as long as it is not outright hate speech.

It is the ability to think critically (which includes objective consideration of others’ criticisms, and self-criticism where necessary) that defines a mature mind (and society). The inability to accept criticism (as has happened to UMNO-BN) breeds rot and intolerance.

One participant (an Indian Christian) in the Bangsa Malaysia gathering commented on the recent ‘Makkal Ossai’ controversy: he was not offended at all by the caricature of the smoking Jesus Christ published in the ‘Makkal Ossai’ Tamil newspaper and considered the MIC-led official response (suspending Makkal Ossai for 1 month) to be politicised and an over-reaction.

He rationalised it thus: God is great and does not need him to defend Him against something so trivial. If He did, then God must not be as great as we think He is.

An enlightened man indeed.

]]> By: Nucleus Crux http://ghostline.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/you-didnt-need-to-apologise-namewee/#comment-56 Nucleus Crux Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:04:25 +0000 http://ghostline.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/you-didnt-need-to-apologise-namewee/#comment-56 To be frank, I have no objection neither felt offended towards Namewee's Negarakuku. 85% of the song should be remain untouched, and undisputed. The only thing dat keeps on bothering me, the part where he mentioned bout azan subuh. The rest are fine! <strong>[ GhL ] : </strong><em>Yes, he was rather cheeky in poking fun at the azan subuh there, but it really hardly qualifies as a 'great insult' that warrants so much ministerial attention and governmental harassment of his family. The reaction is orders of magnitude out of proportion to the action. It's clear that UMNO-BN's hysterical hyping of the issue was mainly intended to (1) distract public attention from the enormous Port Klang debacle, and (2) to make an example of Namewee as a warning to other online dissenters. <strong>What a wonderful government we have.</strong> </em> To be frank, I have no objection neither felt offended towards Namewee’s Negarakuku. 85% of the song should be remain untouched, and undisputed. The only thing dat keeps on bothering me, the part where he mentioned bout azan subuh. The rest are fine!

[ GhL ] : Yes, he was rather cheeky in poking fun at the azan subuh there, but it really hardly qualifies as a ‘great insult’ that warrants so much ministerial attention and governmental harassment of his family. The reaction is orders of magnitude out of proportion to the action. It’s clear that UMNO-BN’s hysterical hyping of the issue was mainly intended to (1) distract public attention from the enormous Port Klang debacle, and (2) to make an example of Namewee as a warning to other online dissenters. What a wonderful government we have.

]]> By: Antares http://ghostline.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/you-didnt-need-to-apologise-namewee/#comment-15 Antares Wed, 15 Aug 2007 16:39:28 +0000 http://ghostline.wordpress.com/2007/08/15/you-didnt-need-to-apologise-namewee/#comment-15 My sentiments precisely. Thanks for addressing this important issue in your blog, Ghostline. After viewing Meng Chee's vid I went directly to his website and left him a note congratulating him for his resourcefulness, courage, and genuine talent as a rapper. This is what rap as a genre is all about - an artistic outlet for angry young urbanites with a good sense of rhythm and street poetry - whether black, white, yellow, or brown. A single human being is worth more than all the goddamn silly flags and slogans in the entire world. Cheers! <em><strong>[ GhL ] :</strong> Ironic, isn't it? Such 'righteous' outrage from UMNO-BN, such prompt action, such a huge amount of precious UMNO-BN energy (so precious they can't spare it for merely running a country properly) poured into persecuting one justifiably angry young man. Hmmm... here's a thought... MAYBE they could spare a dollop of energy for that lonely '632-page corruption report'? Or is that too much to ask Pak Blah? </em> My sentiments precisely. Thanks for addressing this important issue in your blog, Ghostline. After viewing Meng Chee’s vid I went directly to his website and left him a note congratulating him for his
resourcefulness, courage, and genuine talent as a rapper. This is what rap as a genre is all about – an artistic outlet for angry young urbanites with a good sense of rhythm and street poetry – whether black, white, yellow, or brown. A single human being is worth more than all the goddamn silly flags and slogans in the entire world. Cheers!

[ GhL ] : Ironic, isn’t it? Such ‘righteous’ outrage from UMNO-BN, such prompt action, such a huge amount of precious UMNO-BN energy (so precious they can’t spare it for merely running a country properly) poured into persecuting one justifiably angry young man. Hmmm… here’s a thought… MAYBE they could spare a dollop of energy for that lonely ‘632-page corruption report’? Or is that too much to ask Pak Blah?

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