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		<title>By: Sean E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Mar 2008 03:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you want to have a better future for our children in Malaysia, do your part by signing the on-line petition at http://www.petitiononline.com/RCER2008/petition.html 

This is one of the way (non-violence) to bring our message to the Government. 

Don’t just sit there, stand up and be counted!

Why do we need to reform the Election Commission?

1) Gerrymandering. The discrepancy between number of voters in voting areas is too great.  The smallest parliamentary seat (Federal Territory, Putrajaya) has only 6,608 voters while the parliamentary seat for Kapar in Selangor has 112,224 voters. What this means is that one vote in the Putrajaya parliamentary constituency is equivalent to 17 votes in the Kapar constituency.

2) Phantom voters. A common tactic is to ‘buy’ the identity card of the voters. Party members from the ruling parties will then vote on the voters’ behalf. Random checking of a person’s identity must be conducted using those finger print checking device (like the bank use). Any voting done on another person’s identity must be made a serious offence under the election law.

3) Postal votes. The rules on postal voting must be reviewed, tightened and amended. The current rule favours the ruling party as the armed forces personnel and policemen who vote by ‘postal voting’ would obviously not jeopardize their career or promotion prospect by voting for the opposition. Voting under postal voting is not secret as it is under the watchful eyes of the senior officers.

4) Spoiled votes. How do we define spoiled votes. It is very easy to turn good votes into spoiled votes (by adding one more x to the ballot paper). Are spoiled votes being verified and watched over by the party representatives? In marginal areas in which the winning margin is razor thin, the so-called spoiled votes need to be scrutinized.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to have a better future for our children in Malaysia, do your part by signing the on-line petition at <a href="http://www.petitiononline.com/RCER2008/petition.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitiononline.com/RCER2008/petition.html</a> </p>
<p>This is one of the way (non-violence) to bring our message to the Government. </p>
<p>Don’t just sit there, stand up and be counted!</p>
<p>Why do we need to reform the Election Commission?</p>
<p>1) Gerrymandering. The discrepancy between number of voters in voting areas is too great.  The smallest parliamentary seat (Federal Territory, Putrajaya) has only 6,608 voters while the parliamentary seat for Kapar in Selangor has 112,224 voters. What this means is that one vote in the Putrajaya parliamentary constituency is equivalent to 17 votes in the Kapar constituency.</p>
<p>2) Phantom voters. A common tactic is to ‘buy’ the identity card of the voters. Party members from the ruling parties will then vote on the voters’ behalf. Random checking of a person’s identity must be conducted using those finger print checking device (like the bank use). Any voting done on another person’s identity must be made a serious offence under the election law.</p>
<p>3) Postal votes. The rules on postal voting must be reviewed, tightened and amended. The current rule favours the ruling party as the armed forces personnel and policemen who vote by ‘postal voting’ would obviously not jeopardize their career or promotion prospect by voting for the opposition. Voting under postal voting is not secret as it is under the watchful eyes of the senior officers.</p>
<p>4) Spoiled votes. How do we define spoiled votes. It is very easy to turn good votes into spoiled votes (by adding one more x to the ballot paper). Are spoiled votes being verified and watched over by the party representatives? In marginal areas in which the winning margin is razor thin, the so-called spoiled votes need to be scrutinized.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
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		<dc:creator>JK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2007 00:33:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m Chinese myself. I&#039;ve recently registered to vote - but wouldn&#039;t have if someone didn&#039;t show me how or point out how important it was.

I suspect most of the fiery Internet-generation Chinese guys and girls haven&#039;t registered to vote, or know how to for that matter. This would be a chunk that would be very significant I think...


&lt;strong&gt;[ GhL ]&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;em&gt;: Good for you, JK; Please help to urge everyone you know (and everyone they know) to register themselves and vote smartly in the coming election. The cutoff date is approaching rapidly, as our scintillating Election Commission claims it requires 3 months to register a voter, and UMNO will try desperately to hold the election by March, before the resurgent Anwar Ibrahim once again becomes eligible to stand for election. 

This will be a watershed election. 

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m Chinese myself. I&#8217;ve recently registered to vote &#8211; but wouldn&#8217;t have if someone didn&#8217;t show me how or point out how important it was.</p>
<p>I suspect most of the fiery Internet-generation Chinese guys and girls haven&#8217;t registered to vote, or know how to for that matter. This would be a chunk that would be very significant I think&#8230;</p>
<p><strong>[ GhL ]</strong> <em>: Good for you, JK; Please help to urge everyone you know (and everyone they know) to register themselves and vote smartly in the coming election. The cutoff date is approaching rapidly, as our scintillating Election Commission claims it requires 3 months to register a voter, and UMNO will try desperately to hold the election by March, before the resurgent Anwar Ibrahim once again becomes eligible to stand for election. </p>
<p>This will be a watershed election. </p>
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		<title>By: chansey</title>
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		<dc:creator>chansey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2007 18:01:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed, agreed and thrice agreed! Perhaps it&#039;s simply because I&#039;m exposed to &quot;the Chinese angle&quot; a bit more, but as far as I can see a good portion of the blame truly falls on us - and there are even political analyses (e.g. RK Vasil&#039;s Politics in a Plural Society) that attest to this.

Ladies and gents, living in a country doesn&#039;t simply involve doing business with &#039;our fellow citizens&#039;. We all have the responsibility to serve our countrymen. We&#039;ve put that aside too many times.

GhL, anyone with an internet connection is a potential supporter - but internet penetration in Malaysia is as we all know, limited. To reach out to everyone, we&#039;re going to need to adopt other methods. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samizdat as an example. 

&lt;strong&gt;
[ GhL ] : &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;Agreed, our chosen medium has limitations in reaching out to the masses, although it is improving by the day; we need to broaden our reach to build the critical mass necessary to effect change. 

Technically, what we civil society bloggers are practising now is the digital form of &#039;samizdat&#039;. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed, agreed and thrice agreed! Perhaps it&#8217;s simply because I&#8217;m exposed to &#8220;the Chinese angle&#8221; a bit more, but as far as I can see a good portion of the blame truly falls on us &#8211; and there are even political analyses (e.g. RK Vasil&#8217;s Politics in a Plural Society) that attest to this.</p>
<p>Ladies and gents, living in a country doesn&#8217;t simply involve doing business with &#8216;our fellow citizens&#8217;. We all have the responsibility to serve our countrymen. We&#8217;ve put that aside too many times.</p>
<p>GhL, anyone with an internet connection is a potential supporter &#8211; but internet penetration in Malaysia is as we all know, limited. To reach out to everyone, we&#8217;re going to need to adopt other methods. See <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samizdat" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samizdat</a> as an example. </p>
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[ GhL ] : </strong><em>Agreed, our chosen medium has limitations in reaching out to the masses, although it is improving by the day; we need to broaden our reach to build the critical mass necessary to effect change. </p>
<p>Technically, what we civil society bloggers are practising now is the digital form of &#8217;samizdat&#8217;. </em></p>
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		<title>By: Klaw</title>
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		<dc:creator>Klaw</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 17:05:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post. I hope not only will Malaysian Chinese read this, Malaysian Indians will read as well. The government&#039;s propaganda is extremely powerful, but its easy, just vote based on performance. How have the BN parliamentarians represented you? Don&#039;t give them another chance to con you into extending their term.

I would like to add that if even it is possible to convert that 15% apathetic Chinese, it won&#039;t translate well into seats in Parliament due to gerry-mandering. But we&#039;ll take it a step at a time.


&lt;strong&gt;[ GhL ] &lt;/strong&gt;&lt;em&gt;: Yeah, we need to stop the rot now before the continued subversion-corruption of the Election Commission and other state institutions renders our deeply-flawed elections even more meaningless. 

An idea: I&#039;m going to write to some international election watch NGO&#039;s to try and get them to send election observers to Malaysia. &lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post. I hope not only will Malaysian Chinese read this, Malaysian Indians will read as well. The government&#8217;s propaganda is extremely powerful, but its easy, just vote based on performance. How have the BN parliamentarians represented you? Don&#8217;t give them another chance to con you into extending their term.</p>
<p>I would like to add that if even it is possible to convert that 15% apathetic Chinese, it won&#8217;t translate well into seats in Parliament due to gerry-mandering. But we&#8217;ll take it a step at a time.</p>
<p><strong>[ GhL ] </strong><em>: Yeah, we need to stop the rot now before the continued subversion-corruption of the Election Commission and other state institutions renders our deeply-flawed elections even more meaningless. </p>
<p>An idea: I&#8217;m going to write to some international election watch NGO&#8217;s to try and get them to send election observers to Malaysia. </em></p>
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		<title>By: Dan-yel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan-yel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 16:15:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good observation, though I wonder where the 5%-5%-15% statistics for the Chinese come from. The Malays % not strange for me based on their divided votes in Mahathir&#039;s last General Election.


&lt;strong&gt;[ GhL ]&lt;/strong&gt; : &lt;em&gt;The 5%-5%-15% estimate comes from me, based on my general observations on the ground that roughly 20% of the Chinese population are diehard opposition supporters, up to 20% are BN mercenaries/brainwashed, and the remaining majority of 60% being mainly fence-sitters/opportunists whose political commitments waver like candles in the breeze. Sorry I can&#039;t back up my numbers with a Gallup poll :)  

There is definitely a lot of discontent amongst the Chinese on the ground; everyone gripes about the way things are in Malaysia, but when I press harder for a commitment, the number of people who will actually say, &quot;Yeah, I&#039;m pissed off, I&#039;m definitely going to vote the BN out&quot; is much fewer than I&#039;d like. 

Most of the time, the response I get is a shrug and a resigned, &quot;Aiyah, what to do? the government is like that wan. If we vote BN out, who will run the government? Like that lor. Pay bribe lor.&quot; 

At which point I have to strenuously restrain myself from vigorously slapping the person - repeatedly - to wake him/her up. Not good for family/friend/business relationships, you see. 

But seriously, there is much work to be done to secure the commitment of the fence-sitting Chinese.  
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good observation, though I wonder where the 5%-5%-15% statistics for the Chinese come from. The Malays % not strange for me based on their divided votes in Mahathir&#8217;s last General Election.</p>
<p><strong>[ GhL ]</strong> : <em>The 5%-5%-15% estimate comes from me, based on my general observations on the ground that roughly 20% of the Chinese population are diehard opposition supporters, up to 20% are BN mercenaries/brainwashed, and the remaining majority of 60% being mainly fence-sitters/opportunists whose political commitments waver like candles in the breeze. Sorry I can&#8217;t back up my numbers with a Gallup poll <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   </p>
<p>There is definitely a lot of discontent amongst the Chinese on the ground; everyone gripes about the way things are in Malaysia, but when I press harder for a commitment, the number of people who will actually say, &#8220;Yeah, I&#8217;m pissed off, I&#8217;m definitely going to vote the BN out&#8221; is much fewer than I&#8217;d like. </p>
<p>Most of the time, the response I get is a shrug and a resigned, &#8220;Aiyah, what to do? the government is like that wan. If we vote BN out, who will run the government? Like that lor. Pay bribe lor.&#8221; </p>
<p>At which point I have to strenuously restrain myself from vigorously slapping the person &#8211; repeatedly &#8211; to wake him/her up. Not good for family/friend/business relationships, you see. </p>
<p>But seriously, there is much work to be done to secure the commitment of the fence-sitting Chinese.<br />
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